Public sentiment towards the proposed negotiations involving Trump, Putin, and Zelensky is overwhelmingly negative, with significant skepticism regarding the potential effectiveness of these discussions. Many commenters express the belief that Ukraine's sovereignty is at risk, criticizing the negotiation tactics that seem rooted in appeasement and sidelining Ukrainian interests. There's a strong consensus that external leaders lack sincerity and that Ukraine's voice must be central in any discussions relating to its future.

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and disarmament. and no nato. and no security guarantees. and the promise to get the rest gift-wrapped before 2030.

One-Reflection-4826

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Bad deal for Ukraine. They need a peace agreement not a ceasefire.

1. Ukraine has major fortification lines in Donetsk. If they abandon these they leave themselves seriously exposed.
2. A notable percent of Ukraine's army is now unwilling conscripts. Presumably these will be allowed to return home. If war breaks out again in 1-2 years. You will not be able to round these people up quickly. So Ukraine will have a personal issue at the onset of the next war. Russia's army is more volunteer. So if they need to mobilise for round two. They will be able to do so faster.
3. With only a ceasefire and no peace agreement. No one will want to invest capital into Ukraine. The risk &amp; return will not stack up. As at any point Russia can invade and you lose your capital. This is capital Ukraine desperately needs but won't get.
4. Russia will keep its economy on a quasi wartime footing. Accumulating a massive amount of material. They are producing 1200 isklander's, 62,000 Geran's, 4 million 152 mm shells a year right now. Ukraine on the other hand will produce and be gifted relatively less. They desperately need to repair their infrastructure money will be directed here not into munitions. In a couple of years there will be a massive mismatch. Russia knows exactly what it needs and at what quantity to defeat Ukraine in round 2. It will produce this. 
5. With no long term solution and a war likely in the future. Many men may leave Ukraine. Men Ukraine needs to rebuild.

donnydodo

Witkoff has no experience. Really. Zero.First problem (he's likely not aware of). Russia doesn't occupy the totality of the oblasts....

PressPausePlay

When Europe folded under Trump's trade pressure, accepting tariffs and promising more than half a trillion in vassalage payments, it sent the message to Putin that Western Europe is weak. Putin smelled blood in the water and is now going for the throat.

karagousis

And then a year from now he starts all over again either there or somewhere else to gain more land with the same eventual deal.  Only way I’d even half consider this is if Ukraine joins NATO

Rosemoorstreet

Somewhere: *Ok, I will stop stealing only if I can keep all the loot plus the rest I couldn't take just to keep the collection complete.*

The actual victim: *Euh, do you guys want to hear my opinion?*

Jumping-Gazelle

Misleading title. He said he will halt war, halt implies temporary stop. Article even says offered casefire in exchange for recognition of eastern Ukraine being Russian. That would be worst deal in history of deals, maybe ever.

Cheerful_Champion

Not sure how Ukraine will ever get that territory back. 

Anyways the Trump-Putin meeting in Alaska has cold war vibes

polemism

Putin is lying, once he moves the bar and begins rebuilding troops the bar will move again. The EU knows it and once one country gives up, more attempts will be made

ptahbaphomet

Based on the demands there's basically 0 incentive for Ukraine to not keep fighting. So what if they get pushed back again? That's still losing less land than what the terms moscow is offering.

Meanwhile, sanctions are biting the Russian economy hard, resulting in the war industry winding down due to lack of capital and labor shortages. Meanwhile, rural russia is starting to descend into anarchy due to lack of police presence. Inflation is starting to get out of control. 

Ukraine's main weapon against Russia is finally starting to pay dividends. They would be insane to agree to anything that lifts sanctions on Russia.

Command0Dude

East Ukraine as in freezing the line or in making Ukraine give up more territory?

  
The first is probably the best deal we will ever get out of Russia, the second is dead on arrival in Brussels and Kiev.

spinosaurs70

Putin’s latest gambit—offering to halt the war in Ukraine if granted control over Eastern Ukraine—reads less like a peace proposal and more like a demand for territorial vindication disguised as diplomacy. This is classic Kremlin theater: dangling ceasefire talks while cementing gains on the battlefield, all under the watchful eyes of a Washington eager for an accord and a Ukraine left to wrestle with an impossible choice. Peace at the price of sovereignty? That’s not a bargain—it’s a capitulation. And as the world watches, the real question remains: will the West reward conquest or uphold principle?

fuggitdude22

What he will do is wait a year then attack again.

humtum6767

Ok. Problem: America can't give you that. And Ukraine certainly won't, either.

SheetMetalandGames

Trump wants the peace prize so badly he’s willing to throw a nation to the wolves to get it. I hate that man so much I can’t even describe it in words because it wouldn’t do it justice

WhatAreYouSaying05

All these they should fight to the last Ukrainian posts don't take into account the realities on the ground. Ukraine is just about cooked and Trump knows it, Trump is a shriveled peanut of a human that sees things in purely pragmatic terms. The further reality is that Russia has no capacity to digest western Ukraine or the baltics so a lot of the fearmongering in that side of things is overblown rhetoric. Putin's aims were for east Ukraine and no NATO for the rest.

Odd-Slice-4032

TACO trump is believing Putin again now. He is just desperate to be seen to have ended the war because he is delusional in thinking he can get the Nobel Peace Prize (no doubt the sycophant yes people in his regime are all telling him it's a certainty).

One-Can3752

No. What a ridiculous offer. Who in the world is not laughing?

DanoPinyon

Did they say pause or end the war for this land?

Reverie_of_an_INTP

Putin position remains unchanged and he won't stop.

JustAhobbyish

In unrelated news, the EU says they will lower tariffs on US goods if Trump gives them the entire eastern seashore and 50 miles inland from Miami Florida to Calais Maine. Ever the shrewd negotiator, Trump asked, "Lower them to what amount?"   /s

Mo_Jack

Puzzled_Worth_4287

Russia won't agree to a ceasefire as a precondition to discussing a peace settlement. It's pretty obvious that no mutually satisfactory settlement could be reached, and if it could be reached then it could happen now while conflict is ongoing.

unjour

NinoAllen

IonDaPrizee

chickenboneneck

\- Putin will announce a new round of negotiations  
\- Trump will extend the deadline by 3 months  
\- rinse and repeat for the next 4 years

poop-machine

"Before I even arrive at the Oval Office, I will have the horrible war between Russia and Ukraine totally settled. I’ll have it done in 24 hours. I say that, and I would do that. That’s easy compared to some of the things – I’d get that done in 24 hours. I know them both. I know them both. As the Bible says, ‘Blessed are the peacemakers.’ See that? And I will be your peacemaker. I was your peacemaker."

Just_the_nicest_guy

Trump also wants the Epstein files to disappear, but here we are 🤷🏼‍♂️

themith2019

Trump also wants climate change to end by declaring greenhouse gas as harmless.

It does literally not matter what this moron wants.

By the way, release the Epstein files!

jcrestor

PolitzaniaKing

He's already 8 months late on his last deadline. Also, Donnie is looking more and more like a melting Madame Tussaud wax figure.

Runkleford

I want child rapists to be held to account.

Not holding my breath for either coming true

id10t_you

Trump wants a lot of things. 

Greenland, Canada, Epstein Files to stop being asked about.

Thagyr

There won’t be one, and he will just abandon Ukraine again until he needs another distraction. Which won’t be long, at least.

gotohellwithsuperman

Kooky_Nail694

Just gotta ask him point blank - what do you bring to this deal, other than intent? Because all I hear is you bringing me problems. You're supposed to be a solution guy.

ABob71

Delusional if he thinks he can bully Putin. What a moron.

Ok-Yesterday2017

Far_Piglet_9596

Do_itsch

Prior_Industry

4th time that he has wanted an end to this iirc.  Will probably be the same as the previous "deadlines"

Wishful_Starrr


Will he also release the Eppstein documents on the same day?

Rockedingdon

Bahahaha yeah good luck. It’s like he’s demanding an end to world hunger by Saturday 😂

Amonamission

CrapoCrapo25

I imagine they’re having a good laugh in the Kremlin.  Good old TACO.

hikerjer

pintailcircus

If someone would trademark the word deal they could make a lot of money off the guy who says it all the time.

No_Aside7816

He will tweet about it and thank our attention at the end. Best. Deal. Ever.

Mekktron

“Day 1” by the way. 

Also, where are those Day 1 Epstein Files, Donny The Diddler?

Lefty_22

Donald means Ukraine must give Russia a third of their country, agree to never join NATO, and everything else Russia wants.

Donald is a weak frightened man and will never do anything to help Ukraine attack their attackers on their soil.  Donald is scared shitless of Putin.

EdOfTheMountain

Putin does not want any peace agreement, but the surrender of Ukraine, as it did with Chechnya, in a 10-year war. Trump deludes himself, Putin wants to rebuild the Soviet Union or the Tsarist Empire. All the rest is nonsense, excuses, lies.

LuigiPap

marindoom

Trump and his idiotic dates and timelines.  This boy has cried wolf way too many times.

Indiana-Irishman

Is there anything special about 8/8?


Hmm.

Tiny_Rick_C137

I want all files released. We both will remain unsucessful.

Feuertotem

MrSapasui

Hmm...has he tried the "one phone call that will end the war in 24 hours" strategy yet?

MagicSPA

time_drifter

I'll believe it as soon as NATO forces are patrolling Ukraine skies to shoot down missiles and drones.

FollowingFeisty5321

Yes, everyone will agree to a negotiated peace by an arbitrary deadline.

paulsteinway

Substantial_Fig8339

EastCoastBuck

Well, originally he said the deal was going to be by January 21.

Lucibeanlollipop

chrispdx

And that will be Day 1 of his presidency.

whodey84

MrHardin86

He wants this cease-fire like he wants a solution to the health care crisis: if it fell into his lap, he'd take credit for it, but he has no idea what might cause it to occur.


Putting a date on it is purely a way to keep attention on himself. As always. It has no other meaning or significance.

Leverkaas2516

Throwaway-244466666

“I can end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours with just one phone call”.  That was a campaign promise many months and failed attempts ago.

OG-BoomMaster

At this point it’s clear, the Russians won’t honor any deal. This war ends when one side loses. 

That’s a tough pill to swallow, war is awful, but that’s the reality. This war ends when either Russia or Ukraine loses.

TheDuckFarm

Rich_Information8849

Sweatytubesock

He campaigned on ending the war within 24 hours.

magitek369

Donald Trump the pedophile on the Epstein List?

SpinalVinyl

Lmao like trump has any sway with Putin. Putin will have trump tossed out a 8 story window

travel_enjoy_life30

What Trump wants means very little. Putin will just laugh in his face and continues with the war.

Dark-Cloud666

trailkrow

MD_FunkoMa

Trump had until noon January 21, 2025, to end the war.

RobutNotRobot

This ain’t fucking news it’s bullshit

supacresatbest

l think we all know that's not going to happen. Putin treats Trump like something stuck on the bottom of his shoe

floofnstuff

I want to see Trump out of office and in prison by August 13?  We all want stuff.

SomeSamples

Aug 8... or 9... maybe 2025... probably 2026, maybe.

Scooter-breath

And I’d like to be a billionaire by August 6th.

HumpaDaBear

He could barely make a deal with Brazil, does he really think that he will make a deal with Russia (assuming that Russia is open to one in the first place)? Or, at least, one that is not promptly violated, like Minsk 2014 was (the one that Russia signed and, later, said it wasn't a party to it. I would link to the relevant news article, but it's from TASS and Reddit doesn't let me link to TASS)

mittelwerk

Trump is showing big beautiful strength, strength so strong people can't even believe it that he is shortening his deadline from 10 or 12 days two days ago to now only twelve days away starting maybe tomorrow. Some might even say he is so great he has shortened the deadline all the way from the first day of his presidency...

CozzieLivsStruggler

What happened to the first week of office. This dude is bullshit walking

your_moms_tomatosoup

August 8th? Does he have some kind of bonus payment built into his contract to end the war by that date?

iamsplendid

denverblazer

Tell Trump to wish on one hand, and to shit in the other hand and get back to us with which one fills up first.

Trump is the stupidest motherfucker to have ever been born, there's is no equal, the man is an island of ignorance and stupidity, and his cult followers are all cum guzzling fucktards.

wyccad2

But... I thought he was going to end the war before his first day? what ever happened to that?

Daneyn

From ending the war in 24 hours to Aug 8...then to a different date..the art of being  loser

spolio

Is Aug. 8 still only gonna be 24 hours into this shit?

AZWheels89

I thought he wanted it the day after taking office. What is going wrong?

trisul-108

Who gives a shit about anything this pedo wants or says. It's all theatrics, stupidity, corruption or all 3.

Schmeeble

Ssscrudddy

Hahahahahahahahahahahabahaha. 2 weeks btw

Hi_its_me_Kris

Cool I want the release of the epstein files. 

Zachsek

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